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    Default White Balance...

    How many members use manual white balance? In underwater photography I was taught to manual white balance even if shooting in RAW.

    Can someone please explain the reasons why most if not all images in the ODP gallery are shot with auto WB.

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    I have been using Auto WB more and more - Auto Wb seems to be much more waxed than before. My perception perhaps

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    Default Re: White Balance...

    I don't use AWB. Then again I only shoot in RAW so not really that important if it is slightly off, tweaking the WB in LR often happens anyway, daylight at 5200K with a very slight fleecy cloud easily changes it to 5700 or warmer. I set WB to preset closest to the conditions on the day. For certain sporting events under stadium lights I'll set a manual K setting.
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    Default Re: White Balance...

    Thank you Elsa and Simon.

    So taking out a white card and setting WB to it is not often used?

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    I am asking these questions because I want to get a gist of if it is necessary for macro product photography. I am talking about shiny surfaces like watches, Knives, cutlery and jewelry under constant LED lighting.

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    Default Re: White Balance...

    I prefer my camera's AWB to it's presets most of the time. I find the presets tend to be a little "warm".
    But I do find at night and "even more so" at dusk, between sunset and full dark, AWB struggles. Especially if there are other light sources around.

    For what you describe, I would use a white card, but would probably use it as a reference to get the WB right in Lightroom and then copy that white balance to all the other shots taken with that setup.

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    Default Re: White Balance...

    You can do what Peter says - it will work

    For product photography I would shoot on Kelvin and use a Colour checker. If you work in one set up - your set up should remain the same - but you should check for colour casts from products - if applicable. Every time light set up changes - re shoot colour checker. The colour checker profile should allow you to batch correct the images. With products colour output is / should / could be crucial. So get them right
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    Thank you for the pointers Elsa and Peter. They prompted me to look up color balance profiles. I have never bothered with WB, color charts or grey cards. Just used the slider in LR to eyeball what i think looks right.

    I will try all the methods and see what works best for me.

    Wow the X-Rite passport is a bit pricey.

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    Default Re: White Balance...

    well let me put it this way - you want to shoot choklits - you better get the colour right... have you ever tried to photograph a choklit with a purple wrapper and get that accurate... no amount of fiddling will leave you confident that the colours are indeed reflecting as they should
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    Default Re: White Balance...

    Quote Originally Posted by elsahoffmann View Post
    well let me put it this way - you want to shoot choklits - you better get the colour right... have you ever tried to photograph a choklit with a purple wrapper and get that accurate... no amount of fiddling will leave you confident that the colours are indeed reflecting as they should
    We will give that one a try Elsa.

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    You people are so malicious and cruel (LOL).

    Have to wait till tomorrow to go through to ODP and get the X-Rite Passport.

    Bought the Purple packaged Choklit Elsa, the wife and grandchild ate them all. Now just got a few purple rappers salvaged from the waste bin.

    I now have a job of cleaning and polishing "ALL" my wife's jewelry. She caught me polishing and cleaning a watch I wanted to get images of.

    SO Instead of just taking out a WB card, you's have driven me to purchase a X-Rite Passport. And it looks like a light meter will be next.

    Jokes aside. Thank you all so much for pointing me in this direction. Most appreciated.

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    Why dont you try the card first.....the Colour checker is expensive
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    Default Re: White Balance...

    Quote Originally Posted by elsahoffmann View Post
    Why dont you try the card first.....the Colour checker is expensive
    Tried that here.... http://www.outdoorphoto.community/ga...ambuca&cat=548

    No nice reflective colors

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